Is Intelligent Design a Religious Movement?

Filed under: ID — Barry Carey at 7:01 am on Thursday, April 10, 2008

This is part 3 of a short series examining the question, “Is Intelligent Design nothing more than disguised creationism?” In this post I will consider another assertion made by ID opponents who wish to equate ID with creationism.

A related criticism to the one considered in the last post is that ID is a religious movement, not a scientific one. Forrest argues that…

… intelligent design (is) a term that is essentially code for the religious belief in a supernatural creator…

and that…

… it represents an attempt to promote religious belief.

Much of my answer to the previous objection would be applicable to this criticism. Nonetheless, it might still be possible that intelligent design is a religious movement even if it does not espouse young earth creationism. I will make three further observations in response to this objection.

The initial observation, and perhaps the most important, is that intelligent design is based on science, and not on any religious text or teaching. Intelligent design scholars do not appeal to the Bible, nor do they start with any sacred text and look to nature for support. Intelligent design scientists attempt to empirically detect evidence of design in nature. The starting point is observations in nature. Arguing that intelligent design is not science, the American Astronomical Society claims that…

Intelligent Design fails to meet the basic definition of a scientific idea: its proponents do not present testable hypotheses and do not provide evidence for their views.

While it is beyond the scope of this paper to explore just what counts as “science,” it is important to note that there is and has always been much disagreement among scientists and philosophers of science as to what is scientific and what is not. Del Ratzsch states that there is “no standard, accepted definition.” Intelligent design is at least as scientific as Darwinism unless one arbitrarily excludes intelligent agency from science. The dual concepts of irreducible complexity and complex specificity, along with the informational content present in the cell, are rigorously defined and are subject to empirical verification.

The next observation is that many special sciences employ the scientific methodology of intelligent design. For example, archaeologists assume that one can differentiate between artifacts of intelligent beings and the results of blind material forces. Similarly, the goal of forensic science is to determine whether someone’s death was caused by the actions of an intelligent agent or from natural causes – they assume that one is able to differentiate chance from design. Also, artificial intelligence, cryptography, and the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) assume that humans can recognize design. Scholars and educators assume the same in order to detect the actions of intelligent agents in fighting plagiarism and data falsification. The underlying scientific methodology of intelligent design is the same as that used by many other modern sciences.

In my next post, I will make a third observation concerning the assertion that ID is a religious movement and not a scientific one.

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Comment by psiloiordinary

April 11, 2008 @ 5:55 am

To you first observation I would say that are not looking very closely - ID proponents do believe it was the christian god that did the designing.

To your second observation that archeologists assume intelligent design of manufactured objects like say a comb or a shoe I would simply point out that these objects don’t reproduce and so they can’t evolve and so we know no other way for them to be produced - as long as we rule out ancient magicians conjuring them out of thin air.

Likewise radio signals can not reproduce and so can’t have evolved.

Living things do reproduce, they do vary and not all of them survive to reproduce - this is what evolution is.

Regards,

Psi

Comment by Josh Caleb

April 11, 2008 @ 2:49 pm

Psi,
ID theorists may have theological convictions about the identity of the designer, but this is not derived from the science that supports the theory. Therefore, as a scientific enterprise, ID makes no claims about the identity of the intelligent causation, only that it was a mind rather than mindless. “Look closer” next time.

The problem with your argument is that you haven’t explained the origins of reproducing organisms, what produces those? And please, any reference to “Promissory Materialism” (ala Karl Popper) is just as much a faith claim as anything else.

ID applies the princeples of design and information theory from these fields (SETI, archeology, forensic science) to biology, so where is the problem?

And just a clarification, there are many aspects of evolution that are consistent with ID, it simply critiques evolution’s 1) ubiquitous atheistic overtones as a “mindless, unguided process” and 2) over confident claims of the factual basis of universal common ancestry.

cheers

Comment by JLT

April 11, 2008 @ 4:12 pm

The dual concepts of irreducible complexity and complex specificity, along with the informational content present in the cell, are rigorously defined and are subject to empirical verification.

Actually, they are not. For example, Dembskis Explanatory filter is nothing more than pointing at something and exclaim:”Design!” The same is true for Mike Genes Design Matrix. Both methods contain non-testable, purely subjective elements.

ID proponents failed up to this day to provide a scientifically testable method to identify design. THAT’S why it isn’t science (among other things, e.g. that they do not even try to test their methods).

Comment by Unapologetic Catholic

April 11, 2008 @ 6:47 pm

“The dual concepts of irreducible complexity and complex specificity, along with the informational content present in the cell, are rigorously defined and are subject to empirical verification.”

You said that in a post before and I asked you then to provide the rigourous definition and the empirical verification.

Here were my questions from the earlier post:

“Specified complexity is well-defined and empirically detectable.”

Can you define “specified complexity,” please?

Can you describe a method of reliable detectibility of specified complexity?

Do you have an answer to these questions? If you don’t, your repeated assertion that irreducible complexity is rigorously defined and empirically verified is unfounded.

Comment by psiloiordinary

April 12, 2008 @ 3:02 am

Hi,

1. Just to make it three in a row - what science backs up ID?

I can’t find any. You haven’t given us any yet. Please be our guest.

2. The origin of life is not a part of evolution theory. Do you realise this?

2a. Your argument is known as the logical fallacy known as the “argument from ignorance” or god of the gaps.

3. ID claims are completely agreeable with ALL the evidence we have plus ANY OTHER EVIDENCE WE CAN IMAGINE - god is omnipotent remember?

4. If you are claiming that rational argument is a faith position which can’t be proved without the use of rational thought then you are philosophically correct and have just pulled the theoretical/philospohical rug from under any and every world view. You can use your point to argue the world does not exist other than in your head. Feel free to inhabit such a philosophically consistent and nonsense world - I will stick to the real universe and evidence.

I choose to stick with rational thought anyway - human history and science in particular has been keeping score and rationalism is winning against irrationalism by several billion to zero.

When you leave the room will you use the door or the window?

That’s one more to rationalism ;-)

Comment by Aaron Snell

April 12, 2008 @ 7:33 pm

JLT,

Dembskis Explanatory filter is nothing more than pointing at something and exclaim:”Design!”

Please tell us what you think Dembski’s explanatory filter is.

Both methods contain non-testable, purely subjective elements.

All science contains purely subjective elements, including the so-called scientific method. Tis the nature of human endeavor, and the impulse behind the shifts in philosophy of science over the last two-hundred years. I recommend reading Del Ratzsch’s Battle of the Beginnings: Why Neither Side is Winning the Creation-Evolution Debate, specifically his two chapters on the philosophy of science, for more on this.

Comment by Aaron Snell

April 12, 2008 @ 7:34 pm

Psiloiordinary,

Please tell me what Intelligent Design literature you’ve read.

Comment by psiloiordinary

April 13, 2008 @ 3:30 am

I have read most of the Disco Tute on line materials and I have watched and analysed the “Where Does the Evdidence Lead?” and
“Unlocking the Mystery of Life” and worked through the accompanying work books.

These were sent to my sons school by a group claiming that ID was a genuine scientific school of thought, but these materials contain no genuine scientific learnings, just lies and distortions mixd up in logical fallacies and very high production values.

The group’s web site claim that ID is not based on religion at all but a little research revealed this statement from them before they sent out the DVDs or set up the web page;

“It is a concern to many when science is wrongly taught in our schools, colleges and universities. In particular, macroevolution is taught as though it were a proven and unchallengeable fact. For our children and grandchildren, God is thus robbed of His glory. Young people are encouraged into a way of thinking that leads to atheism, hedonism, despair and moral bankruptcy. Belief in a Creator is often ridiculed and anyone advocating such a view is portrayed as either foolish or naïve.
In reality evolutionary claims often constitute speculative beliefs about the past and use explanations that are contrary to the spirit of empirical science. For example, human origins are typically presented with simplistic diagrams supposedly showing the progression from ape-like ancestors to modern man. We believe this amounts to deception. Problems with evolutionary theory are well documented but many scientists seldom acknowledge this, choosing rather to gloss over them. This matters because a false view robs us of our sense of value and purpose before a Sovereign Creator God.
“If the foundations be destroyed what can the righteous do?” Psalm 11:3
To respond to this, a group of professional and business people are meeting under the heading TRUTH IN SCIENCE [TIS]. As citizens with a concern for the family we seek to encourage Christians to be confident that God’s spoken command in space-time history resulted in supra-natural creation. Non-believers must be challenged in such a way that they can no longer hide behind the delusion that science has disproved the existence of God. TIS seeks to encourage scientists to present the truth fairly and to expose as charlatans those who deliberately mislead. Our aim is to compliment the work of existing Creation groups by targeting education in particular.
Do you share this vision? We believe that as children of the Lord Jesus Christ, bought at the price of His own shed blood, we cannot sit back and allow this situation to continue unchallenged. Do you wish to see our children being taught the truth rather than having their moral and spiritual lives undermined? Although TIS have ways and means in mind, at this early stage we are flexible about the best approach. If finance is made available have you the time and ability and commitment to be the driving force, co-operating with us, in this venture to effect the education of young people in our land. If so, we wish to hear from you.”

Perhaps you could get around to answering some of the points I made now?

Regards,

Psi

Comment by Unapologetic Catholic

April 13, 2008 @ 2:07 pm

Just to chime in with a non-exclusive off the top of my head list:

I’ve read Darwin’s Black Box, The Design Inference, No Free Lunch, numerous essays by Behe, Dembski, West, Dembski’expert witness reprt in the Dover case, Behe’s trial testimony, deposition testimony and expert reports in the Dover case and in the Christian Schools case, along with Discovery Institute and ARN materials published online.

Comment by psiloiordinary

April 13, 2008 @ 4:32 pm

Yes you reminded me - strike two for the trial testimony.

PS I liked the text of the judgment best ;-)

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